Primary work: Deutsche Stadt
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- Artist
this is a more recent artwork from 2020, its called Deutsche Stadt from the megacities series and is 1.5m x 2m, prninted on aluminum
- Art/Official
Good — recent work, large format, aluminum print.
- Art/Official
Is this part of something ongoing, or does it feel more like a standalone moment?
- Artist
this is part of the megacites series, where there are like 9 full size complete images and 30 figured out
- Art/Official
Good, that tracks with where the series is. Where were you when you made this one?
- Artist
I was in my apartment in Alt Treptow berlin
- Art/Official
Before you upload — describe this work to me first, before either of us sees it. I'll ask you again later, once we've talked it through, and we'll look at both together at the end. There's no right way to do this — however it comes is exactly right.
- Artist
this is a picture of satelite images of the cities from the country of germany, at first look looks like on place, but you then discover that it a bunch of cities collaged together
- Art/Official
That seamlessness on first encounter — that's doing real work. Go ahead and upload the image when you're ready.
- Artist
I have uploaded the primary artwork image.
- Art/Official
That seamlessness is working exactly as described — it reads as one continuous city. I can see at least two distinct river systems stitched together; the broad northern waterway looks like Hamburg's harbour, and that sweeping Rhine bend in the lower right is unmistakably Cologne or Düsseldorf. Let me pull the legacy record and stage the basics while we talk.
- Art/Official
Good — legacy record matches cleanly: title, year, series, country all align. The legacy dimensions show 1.4 × 2m — you said 1.5 × 2m, so I've gone with your current figure. At 150 × 200cm this is firmly xl on the site grid — does that feel right for how you want it to read?
- Artist
ok probably is 140cm x 200cm and is definitly xl
- Art/Official
Good, correcting that now.
- Art/Official
140 × 200cm, xl — sorted. Which cities are in this one? I could see at least Hamburg and what looked like a Rhine-bend city — but I want to hear the full lineup from you.
- Artist
Berlin, Hamburg, Munich, franfurt am Main, cologne, dusseldorf, essen, dortmund and stuttgart
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- Art/Official
Nine cities — pure population ranking, I'd assume. Let me look them all up at once.
- Art/Official
Let me try direct entity lookups for each city.
- Art/Official
Wikidata is rate-limiting right now — I'll stage what I have for Berlin and fill the rest in from known data, then we can verify at commit.
- Art/Official
All nine staged. Was it straight population ranking that determined those nine, or did any editorial judgment creep in — the Ruhr cities clustered together, for instance?
- Artist
bassically population, which is straight forward for the larger cities, but gets a little subjective for the smaller ones like essen and dortmun, but they are part of the ruhr, which should probably be the largest city in europe
- Art/Official
That's a genuinely interesting wrinkle — the Ruhr as a single urban agglomeration would dwarf most European cities, but because it's administratively fragmented you end up counting Essen and Dortmund separately, each slipping in under their individual populations. So the ranking method is technically neutral but it's actually revealing something about how Germany's industrial history shaped its urban geography.
- Art/Official
This is the first completed Megacities work — what made Germany the starting point rather than somewhere else?
- Artist
This was the first one, I think mostly because I am living here now, then was the US and then china
- Art/Official
So the sequence follows where you've been — Germany first because you're here, US next, then China. That's a personal logic running underneath what looks like a neutral population-data exercise. Did that feel like the right place to start, or more like the obvious one — the city you were already inside?
- Artist
yeah, just figured like the place to start, I look at the german maps when I travel around a lot so was already seeing them
- Art/Official
That's a nice detail — the satellite view was already part of how you were moving through the country, so the work came out of something you were already doing, not a decision made at a desk.
- Art/Official
The tool you built — the Puppeteer script capturing at 10,000px — was that already working when you started Deutsche Stadt, or did this work push you to build it?
- Artist
I think I made it halfway through making this one to help out, was time consuming to stitch screenshots from hand
- Art/Official
So the tool grew out of the work itself — you hit a practical wall mid-composition and built your way through it. That's a meaningful part of how this piece came to exist.
- Art/Official
When you were stitching by hand in the first half — were you making compositional decisions city by city as you went, or did you have the full layout figured out before you started placing anything?
- Artist
I got all nine cities on one photoshop document and worked it out, I think when I combined the rivers is when it came together, the top is the Main river in frankfurt and the middle is cologne and the rhine and the bottom is dusseldorfs rhine
- Art/Official
The rivers as the structural spine — that's a strong compositional logic. Frankfurt's Main at the top, the Rhine through Cologne in the middle, Düsseldorf's Rhine at the bottom. Three distinct moments on the same river system, stitched into one continuous waterway.
- Art/Official
The Rhine and Main are actually connected — the Main flows into the Rhine at Mainz, just downstream from Frankfurt. So what reads as three river moments is really one system. Did that geographic truth factor into the decision, or did it just happen to work visually?
- Artist
I didn't know this, so wasn't part of the process, mostly just playing around with all the cities until there is something that works, is the hardest part of the process
- Art/Official
That's an honest answer — and it makes the result more interesting, not less. You found a geographic truth through visual instinct rather than research. The rivers connected because they looked right, and it turns out they actually are connected. How long did the composition phase take — the playing around with all nine until it locked?
- Artist
I'm not good with time, but was the first and took a while, some hours over some days, maybe like 10 until the main composition was ready
- Art/Official
Around 10 hours spread over a few days for the first one — and that's before the Puppeteer tool existed for half of it. Makes sense it was the hardest.
- Art/Official
You mentioned Gursky before in relation to Megacities — the aerial distance, the world seen from a remove that starts to abstract it. Looking at Deutsche Stadt now, where does it sit for you relative to that reference — does it feel like it's in conversation with that kind of work, or doing something different?
- Artist
no 10 hours after having all the satellite images, would try stuff and have to try again. This seris comes directly from th digital city series, I made a book for the DCS, and for the cover of the book I made a collage of satellite images of like 10 of the cities collaged together. but that was 2013, so took 7 years to start this series, took me time to think of the concept of the country and how that could work
- Art/Official
Good correction — 10 hours of active composition work once all the satellite images were already in hand. And that's a fascinating origin — the seed was sitting in a 2013 book cover for seven years before it became a series. The country framing was the conceptual unlock that made it work as something more than a collage.
- Art/Official
Seven years between the book cover and the series — what was it about the country framework specifically that made it feel like a real concept rather than just another collage?
- Artist
It gave it a subject matter at such a large scale, the satelites are in a way so similar everywhere, streets, houses, train tracks rivers, but then making it a portrait of a country, you can see the uniqness of a place within this sameness
- Art/Official
That's the core of it — the satellite view flattens everything into the same visual grammar, and then the country frame reintroduces specificity. The sameness is what lets you see the difference.
- Art/Official
When you look at Deutsche Stadt specifically — is Germany legible in it? Can you read it as German rather than just as city?
- Artist
definitly, I think I really just wanted to see if that would work, so didn't really know until I had at least 10, but it does ring true for everyone
- Art/Official
So the proof came from doing it at scale — one country wasn't enough to know if the concept held, you needed ten before you could trust it. And it does hold, which is what keeps the series going. Did Deutsche Stadt change at all once you knew the concept was working — did you go back and adjust anything, or is it essentially as it was when you first assembled it?
- Artist
I would say, different the the first DCS images, this worked from the begining and this first piece is just as strong as the last piece. maybe experience, maybe the parameters were a bit more contrained, so not as many moving techincal parts as the DCS
- Art/Official
That's a meaningful distinction — the DCS was technically open-ended in a way that made early works feel like experiments. Megacities had tighter parameters from the start, so the first piece landed with the same confidence as the tenth.
- Art/Official
The Gursky connection — aerial distance, large-format, the world seen from a remove that abstracts without losing specificity. Is that a reference that feels live for this series, or does Megacities feel like it's coming from somewhere else?
- Artist
Yes thats part of it, I also like to think of it in realtion to the overview effect that astronought have, and this is the last view before you get to that place in space where you just see a globe, but here you can see the detail still, but the series tries to show how connected and similar we all are even when we have distinushable country landscapes
- Art/Official
That's a precise and generous idea — the Overview Effect as the conceptual destination, but the work stopping just short of it, at the altitude where detail is still readable. Close enough to see the universality, not so far that the specificity dissolves.
- Art/Official
The DCS was about being on the ground — skating through a city, finding the decisive moment at street level. Megacities flips that completely to the furthest possible remove. Was that inversion deliberate, or did it only become visible once both series existed?
- Artist
I didn;t really think of it that way so I guess it became later. inbetween the DCS I was painting a lot of the color history pieces and using the historical photos, so in a way I wanted to work with something as modern as I could
- Art/Official
So the move to satellite was partly a reaction to spending years working with historical photographs — you wanted the most contemporary possible source material as a counterweight.
- Art/Official
Where does this work live now — with you, or did it sell?
- Artist
ive sold small prints of this, and exhibited at a gallery once, but just as a large banner, so no legitimate monumental pieces have been made yet
- Art/Official
Got it — small prints sold, one gallery showing as a banner, but no aluminium mount at this scale has actually been produced yet.
- Art/Official
Which gallery was that, and roughly when?
- Artist
Circylar gallery in late 2020
- Art/Official
You described it at the start as something that looks like one place at first, then reveals itself as a collage of cities. After everything we've talked through — the rivers finding each other, the seven-year gap from the book cover, the Overview Effect framing — does that description still feel like the right handle for it, or is there something else sitting closer to the surface now?
- Artist
I think that still works
- Art/Official
Good — that first instinct held up. Let me stage the tags and then we can wrap.
- Art/Official
All done. Open **Wrap up / confirm** in the sidebar — you'll see all the staged fields and the description drafts I've generated. Edit anything that doesn't sound right, then press **Commit**. A couple of things worth checking in that panel: - The **composition number** — I've inferred this as #1 in the series, confirm if that's right - The **tags** — adjust any that feel off - The **Wikidata lookups** for the eight non-Berlin cities hit a rate limit; the Q-IDs are staged but the population/coordinate data will need a manual pass in admin Also, when you have it ready, the **megacities-reference** slot in the Media panel is there for a small-scale working comp if you ever want to add one, and **megacities-flag** for the German flag PNG.