Primary work: Cliff House . 1863
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- Artist
this is an older painting Cliff House . 1863 and was the first painting in the A Colorful History Series, was still a tshirt transfer and acrylic on canvas and was 16" x 16" big
- Art/Official
Good start — first painting in the series is significant context. Is this part of something ongoing, or does it feel more like a standalone moment?
- Artist
was the begining of the A colorful history series, so a bit on going from the vanishing landscape series, but the first time using the historical photo
- Art/Official
That lineage makes sense — the series origin point, bridging the Vanishing Landscape approach into the new territory of historical photographs. Where were you when you made this one?
- Artist
I was in San Francisco at my parents house
- Art/Official
Before you upload — describe this work to me first, before either of us sees it. I'll ask you again later, once we've talked it through, and we'll look at both together at the end. There's no right way to do this — however it comes is exactly right.
- Artist
the painting dipictes the cliff house in san Francisco in 1863, was the fist iteration of the cliff house and was bit smaller than the victorian one from some years later, th view is from ocean beach looking up with the pacific ocean on the left
- Art/Official
Got it. Go ahead and upload the image when you're ready.
- Artist
I have uploaded the primary artwork image.
- Art/Official
What a clear origin point for the series — you can see the method being established right here. The photograph sits in the right half, the colour fields sweep across the left and foreground, and the two coexist without one explaining the other. Let me get the core fields and legacy record locked in while we talk.
- Art/Official
Good — there are five Cliff House records in the legacy archive. The one that matches is almost certainly **Cliff House 1863** (legacy ID 244), with a year candidate of 2013. That's slightly earlier than the c.2014 series origin I had in mind. Two quick things to confirm: 1. The title — is it just "Cliff House" or should it include the year, like "Cliff House 1863"? 2. Does 2013 feel right for when you made it, or was it 2014?
- Artist
sorry it was 2014, usually had the title Cliff House . 1863
- Art/Official
Matched and stored. A couple of things to flag from the legacy record: - **Year**: legacy has 2013, you've confirmed 2014 — we'll go with 2014. - **Dimensions**: legacy has 16 × 16 **cm**, but you said 16 × 16 **inches** — can you confirm it's inches? That's a meaningful difference in size. - **Medium**: legacy says "acrylic transfer and acrylic on canvas" — you described it as a t-shirt transfer, which is the Vanishing Landscape method. Should the medium read "t-shirt transfer and acrylic on canvas" to distinguish it from the later gel medium works?
- Artist
it is inches and I do remember the first 10 I did were t-shirt transfers
- Art/Official
Good — both confirmed. The t-shirt transfer distinction is actually important here, marking this as the bridge work before the gel medium became the ACH method.
- Art/Official
16 × 16 inches — the legacy had it as md which still fits, but just to confirm: does that feel right for how it should sit on the site grid, or would you nudge it smaller given it's a relatively intimate square?
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- Artist
actually should be sm to distinquish from the ones that come after
- Art/Official
Good call — keeps the progression legible as the series scales up.
- Art/Official
What made you reach for a historical photograph for the first time with this one — was there something specific about the Cliff House that pulled you toward it?
- Artist
I grew up around the cliff house area and was always aroud there, skated down that hill many times. but i think finding this older picture of the cliff house intreaged me, because I was more use to seeing the victorian one that burnt down
- Art/Official
That's a good origin — the jolt of seeing a version of a familiar place you didn't know existed. The photograph showed you something the living city had already erased.
- Art/Official
Do you have the Wikimedia Commons URL for the source photograph? I can pull the metadata directly from there.
- Artist
once again I can't find it online, but I'm pretty sure I got it from wikipedia, I do have the photo though
- Art/Official
No problem — let's get the photo attached and I can work from what's visible in it. Go ahead and highlight the source photo slot in the Media uploads panel.
- Art/Official
The **ach-source** slot is highlighted in the Media uploads panel — upload the historical photograph there when you're ready.