Primary work: Self Portrait 1993
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- Artist
this is one of my oldest paintings, its a self portrait from 1993 done with oil on canvas. the painting is 22" x 22"
- Art/Official
Good to know — one of the originals.
- Art/Official
Is this part of something ongoing, or does it feel more like a standalone moment?
- Artist
its part of my origial OG paintings that I did in oil paint. after high school I started to read a lot of liturature and about art and decided I wanted to start painting, so I got cnavas and oil paint and started these paintings. did really know what I was doing, so most paintings were on raw canvas that I would strech and just paint with oils. didn't know what I was doing, but it worked itself out and was the spark of it all
- Art/Official
That's a real origin story — the whole practice starting from raw canvas and figuring it out as you went.
- Art/Official
Where were you when you made this one?
- Artist
back at my parents house in the sunset district in San Francisco
- Art/Official
San Francisco, living at home, teaching yourself to paint. Before you upload — describe this work to me first, before either of us sees it. I'll ask you again later, once we've talked it through, and we'll look at both together at the end. There's no right way to do this — however it comes is exactly right.
- Artist
the work is an attempt at a self portrait on my birthday in 1993. it shows just my head painted in a surreal way and was wearing a baseball hat. the head is in a grey room with a window to the outside, I think there is a finger on the window ledge, outside is green sky with tree branches
- Art/Official
Got it — go ahead and upload when you're ready.
- Artist
I have uploaded the primary artwork image.
- Art/Official
That's striking — much more than just a self-portrait. The head is enormous relative to the space, the hat bleeds right off the canvas, and that disembodied hand is doing something quietly unsettling. The single blue eye looking sideways, the red lips, the shadow — there's a lot of Dalí in the room here. Let me check the legacy records and get the image analysis running.
- Art/Official
No exact match in the legacy records — the only OG oil painting there is "Nietzche's Dream" from 1997, which doesn't sound like this one. What's the title of this painting?
- Artist
Self Portrait 1993
- Art/Official
Simple and direct — right for what it is.
- Art/Official
All the basics are staged. 22 × 22 inches — a square canvas on your first self-portrait attempt, which is an interesting choice. You mentioned you'd been reading a lot of literature and art books before starting these paintings. What were you reading at the time that fed into this one specifically?
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- Artist
mostly european liturature and philosophy, neitsche and goerthe and sartre, plus some henry miller. I think I went through school just trying to get by and pass, which I did, but wasn't to engaged. and then after leaving school I was on my own and started to really teach myself, albiet alot of older european stuff, but was interesting for me. and I think starting to paint was just a way to be a part of it all somehow
- Art/Official
That's a real shift — from getting through school to actually wanting to learn, and painting as a way of joining a conversation you'd found on your own terms.
- Art/Official
The surreal quality in the painting — the oversized head, the green sky, that strange disembodied hand — did that come from what you were reading, or were you also looking at specific painters at the time?
- Artist
I was looking at a lot of Dali, but also tangray and magritte and paul klee
- Art/Official
Great references — and they're all visible in the work. The Magritte logic of the interior/exterior divide, the Tanguy dreamscape colour outside the window, Klee's flattened figure-making.
- Art/Official
You said this was painted on your birthday — was that deliberate, painting yourself on that specific day, or did it just happen to be when you sat down to do it?
- Artist
was deliberate, I did it for three birthdays straight, and then maybe once or twice since then
- Art/Official
That's a real ritual — using the self-portrait as an annual marker. Almost like a timestamp on who you were at that moment.
- Art/Official
The canvas is raw — no gesso, no priming. Was that a practical decision because you didn't know to prime it, or looking at it now does the rawness feel like it was doing something for the work?
- Artist
I didn't know, I was looking at art, but not books on how to make art. when I look back it was probably limiting, but was so new didn't feel like that at all
- Art/Official
That unknowing as a kind of freedom — not knowing the rules means you don't feel the limits yet.
- Art/Official
The eye in the painting is doing something specific — it's looking sideways, not straight at you. Was that a conscious choice, avoiding the direct gaze?
- Artist
I'm not sure, but was also looking at cubism with picasso and duchamp alot
- Art/Official
That tracks — a Cubist influence would explain the eye placement naturally, the face not quite resolving into a single fixed viewpoint.
- Art/Official
For the site grid — 22 × 22 inches is a solid mid-size square. The rule of thumb would suggest medium (md), but how do you want this to read on the site — as a quiet presence or something that commands a bit more space?
- Artist
yes, definitly medium
- Art/Official
Good. Where does this painting live now — still with you?
- Artist
at my parents house in san Francisco
- Art/Official
Still where it was made, essentially.
- Art/Official
I've marked it as not-for-sale — correct me if that's wrong. You were teaching yourself from Dalí, Tanguy, Magritte, Klee, Picasso — a lot of European surrealism and modernism. Looking at this now, is there anything about it that feels like you were already moving away from something, even if you couldn't have named it at the time?
- Artist
maybe from slick graphics, I grew up skatboarding and always liked the graphics from boards and all, but I didn't want to make that
- Art/Official
That's interesting — the thing you loved visually was right there, and you deliberately reached past it toward something older and more interior.
- Art/Official
You described it at the start as a surreal head in a grey room, baseball hat, green sky, tree branches outside, a finger on the ledge. Now that we've talked about the reading, the birthday ritual, the Cubist eye, the raw canvas — does it still feel like that description, or does something sit differently now?
- Artist
would maybe say that I can see now that there was a part of me that wanted to go somewhere, until the I lived only in San Francisco. I eventually went and got around, but can see in this that there was some yearning for that
- Art/Official
That's a real observation — the window, the outside, the eye looking sideways. The whole composition is oriented toward something beyond the room.
- Art/Official
One more thing — this was made at your parents' house in the Sunset District. Was that your studio space, a bedroom, the kitchen table?
- Artist
in the backyard, outside my bedroom door there was a covered space, but was outside
- Art/Official
Painting outside, under cover, in the backyard — that's a good detail.
- Art/Official
Did this painting get shown anywhere, or has it lived at the house since the day you made it?
- Artist
I think i got shown in a cafe in the sunset, but was a little personel so didn't show too much
- Art/Official
Shown once, locally, then kept close — makes sense for something this personal.
- Art/Official
I think we have everything we need. Ready to wrap up?
- Artist
yes, is there anything else we don't have for this one?
- Art/Official
We have everything covered — all the reflective fields, dimensions, location, provenance, availability. Let me generate the confirmation draft now.
- Art/Official
All done. Open **Wrap up / confirm** in the sidebar — you'll see all the staged fields and the drafted descriptions there. Review, edit anything that needs adjusting, and press **Commit** when you're happy. The formal contribution note is worth a read — I tied it back to the instincts that run through everything that came after. Let me know if it lands right or needs rewriting.
- Artist
what about tags
- Art/Official
Good catch. Let me stage those now based on the image and everything we've discussed.
- Art/Official
All staged. You can review and trim any of those in the **Wrap up / confirm** panel — the server will resolve them to tag IDs on commit. Anything there that doesn't feel right?